Eviscerate After the Update...? - Guild Wars Forums

xDusT II · Sep 14, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22

Well the update apparently nerfed eviscerate to 1-31 damage which at first glance is minor compared to its original 10-34.
However when i tested it on 12 axe, i was only doing +25 damage..
besides the deep wound cleave is now doing more base damage at half adrenline cost...
It takes 15 axe mastery to get eviscerate up to 31 damage..

Is this a mistake or is there something im missing here?

Thom Bangalter · Sep 14, 2006, 10:31 AM // 10:31

originally it was up to +42 and deep wound at 16 axe.

at 12 axe you're only going to be getting around 25.

Hand of Ruin · Sep 14, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

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Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

originally it was up to +42 and deep wound at 16 axe.

at 12 axe you're only going to be getting around 25.

No, you don't understand... when a skill description reads 1...31, 1 is at 0 and 31 is at 12...

31 is NOT supposed to be for maxed out axe... why the hell do you think eviscerate was 10...34 in skill description yet at 16 axe mastery you got +42??

Wow what a mystery!

majoho · Sep 14, 2006, 12:26 PM // 12:26

Actually I think he means it has already been nerfed once before (although I'm not sure).

B Ephekt · Sep 14, 2006, 12:34 PM // 12:34

Eviscerate is +33 damage at 16 axe mastery now, +25 at 12.

ss1986v2 · Sep 14, 2006, 12:47 PM // 12:47

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Originally Posted by B Ephekt

Eviscerate is +33 damage at 16 axe mastery now, +25 at 12.

yup, the X..Y numbers on the update arent the usual 0..12 numbers, they seem to be set at 0..15 on many of the skills. anet trying to confuse us lol...

falling demon · Sep 14, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06

Anet use 1-15 in their skill variables, at first, i thought 1-31 at 12 AxMa was great! because at 12 axe mastery, theres more difference between 1 and 31 (30) than between 10 and 34 (24) meaning each point gives more of a bonus, so my 16 axe mastery would mean MORE damage than 10-34, but unfortunately, it seems not..

Swinging Fists · Sep 14, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Yeah, it looks like they screwed up their skill update list. It's +25 at 12 axe. I anticipate these will be corrected on the update page to be on a scale of 0 - 12 in the attribute levels.

Nilator · Sep 14, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Ugh, RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO this update.

Former Ruling · Sep 14, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

Guildwars.com uses a scale of 0...15 for its Skill Desps.

GuildWiki and Guru just seem to like 0...12 better because it doesnt factor in runes.

EDIT: excuse me, corrected a typo.

DeanBB · Sep 14, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13

From guildwars.com:

Warrior: Axe Mastery

Points in this attribute increase basic axe damage and damage dealt by axe skills.

All skills are shown with minimum and maximum values. The minimum is with 0 points in the related attribute; the maximum is with 15 points in the related attribute. It is possible to have more than 15 points in a given attribute, but values will need to be calculated on the 15-point figures given in the individual descriptions.

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Just to backup what has been stated several times but seems to be ignored.

Ole Man Bourbon · Sep 14, 2006, 10:02 PM // 22:02

It's 12, pretty sure. That's the number where the weapon does default damage as well.

Savio · Sep 14, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Deep Wound already did 80-100 virtual damage on top of the base damage and the +damage. 9 damage is a pittance.

imsystem · Sep 15, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17

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Originally Posted by Ole Man Bourbon

It's 12, pretty sure. That's the number where the weapon does default damage as well.

last i knew having 12 in weapon att dont mean squat for default weapon damage. YOu just need the req for the weapon then it will do the default damage.

Savio · Sep 15, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44

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Originally Posted by imsystem

last i knew having 12 in weapon att dont mean squat for default weapon damage. YOu just need the req for the weapon then it will do the default damage.

Attribute level 12 is for 100% of listed damage; attribute level 16 gives you 115% of listed damage. Click here, scroll down to the first table you see.

And actually, in response to Old Man, the +31 is at 15.

Sep 14, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22	#1
xDusT II Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Melbourne	Eviscerate After the Update...? Well the update apparently nerfed eviscerate to 1-31 damage which at first glance is minor compared to its original 10-34. However when i tested it on 12 axe, i was only doing +25 damage.. besides the deep wound cleave is now doing more base damage at half adrenline cost... It takes 15 axe mastery to get eviscerate up to 31 damage.. Is this a mistake or is there something im missing here?

Sep 14, 2006, 12:34 PM // 12:34	#5
B Ephekt Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Team Crystalline [TC] Profession: Mo/	Eviscerate is +33 damage at 16 axe mastery now, +25 at 12. Last edited by B Ephekt; Sep 14, 2006 at 12:38 PM // 12:38..

Sep 14, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29	#10
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Guildwars.com uses a scale of 0...15 for its Skill Desps. GuildWiki and Guru just seem to like 0...12 better because it doesnt factor in runes. EDIT: excuse me, corrected a typo. Last edited by Former Ruling; Sep 14, 2006 at 08:31 PM // 20:31..

Sep 14, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31	#13
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Deep Wound already did 80-100 virtual damage on top of the base damage and the +damage. 9 damage is a pittance. __________________ People are stupid.

Sep 14, 2006, 10:31 AM // 10:31	#2
Thom Bangalter Grindin' Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MO Profession: E/Mo	originally it was up to +42 and deep wound at 16 axe. at 12 axe you're only going to be getting around 25.

Sep 14, 2006, 12:26 PM // 12:26	#4
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Actually I think he means it has already been nerfed once before (although I'm not sure).

Sep 14, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06	#7
falling demon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: dunno Guild: Dawn's Omen {Leader} Profession: W/Mo	Anet use 1-15 in their skill variables, at first, i thought 1-31 at 12 AxMa was great! because at 12 axe mastery, theres more difference between 1 and 31 (30) than between 10 and 34 (24) meaning each point gives more of a bonus, so my 16 axe mastery would mean MORE damage than 10-34, but unfortunately, it seems not..

Sep 14, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56	#8
Swinging Fists Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: W/Mo	Yeah, it looks like they screwed up their skill update list. It's +25 at 12 axe. I anticipate these will be corrected on the update page to be on a scale of 0 - 12 in the attribute levels.

Sep 14, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03	#9
Nilator Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: Mo/	Ugh, RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO this update.

Sep 14, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13	#11
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	From guildwars.com: Warrior: Axe Mastery Points in this attribute increase basic axe damage and damage dealt by axe skills. All skills are shown with minimum and maximum values. The minimum is with 0 points in the related attribute; the maximum is with 15 points in the related attribute. It is possible to have more than 15 points in a given attribute, but values will need to be calculated on the 15-point figures given in the individual descriptions. ----------- Just to backup what has been stated several times but seems to be ignored.

Sep 14, 2006, 10:02 PM // 22:02	#12
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	It's 12, pretty sure. That's the number where the weapon does default damage as well.